What we have learned so far

You may have noticed that we have been keeping relatively quiet recently. We have been scheming behind our closed doors, patiently awaiting the right time for our next big move. Our service has grown faster than we expected, so we have also been dealing with some scaling issues. We are taking a careful, measured approach to our expansion going forward. There are many exciting new things in the works. As we close out our fourth month of running advertisements, we are taking time to reflect on everything we have learned gaming Digg and StumbleUpon.

Digg - quality over quantity

We have always known that “spammy” advertisements are going to get buried by the Digg community, and we continue to reject them. Our service has proven most useful for stories with merit that need the critical first bump to get exposure. Similarly, our service has been successfully used to propel stories already on the front page into the day’s top 10 list. Since this is the case, we have been seeking out advertisers most suited to Digg, and we have had great success doing so. While some argue that these advertisers don’t need our service anyway, our experience has proven this overwhelmingly false. As much as some like to fantasize about Digg as a democratic meritocracy, if you have nothing going for you besides good content, you will not make it onto the front page. Good content is only half the battle, and Subvert and Profit has become a convenient, one-stop-shop for “the other half.” The front page of Digg remains dominated by the various cabals of top users, and Subvert and Profit provides the means to bypass their ring of control.

StumbleUpon - tricky tricky

In the past month we have become much more familiar with the complexity of the StumbleUpon algorithm. Advertiser’s reports of traffic have varied greatly since the beginning, though on average, they have been close to what we predicted. Patterns were initially difficult to single out. After much contemplation of our early results, though, we have gained key insights into the algorithm, and have started applying them. Votes on StumbleUpon are weighted significantly by a list of conditions. For example, a vote is weighted more heavily if the user adds tags or writes a review. The next iterations of our service are going to include drastic improvements that will optimally manipulate these conditions.

That’s all for now. You can expect some upgrades to the functionality and interface of Subvert and Profit over the next few weeks, and some key announcements in September.

10 Responses to “What we have learned so far”

  1. yonghui Says:

    It’s great to know that you guys are actually thinking of better ways to game these social bookmarkers. Don’t take too long though because it is taking too long and I am afraid that my referrals will lose trust in S&P and leave this place.

  2. Miros Says:

    talking about the scaling issues…: is it normal that withdrawals take several days to process?

    I guess there are many “young” users like me who are not very much inclined to do any further digging/stumbling until they see this is “for real” and their first 10 bucks arrive in their pp account…

  3. Dave Says:

    Thanks for the update. What you say about digg is 1o0% dead on! Keep up your business model - it’s fantastic!

  4. Lawrence Says:

    Thanks guys…Keep up the good work!!

  5. James Says:

    Nice, hopefully this means the site can now run at a faster rate.

  6. MoneyBlog Says:

    if you have nothing going for you besides good content, you will not make it onto the front page.

    –> This is always true.

  7. Am0ny Torpor Says:

    Still waiting for my first chance to click… but good to know things are still moving behind the scenes.

    Good luck.

  8. Giridhar Says:

    Its really great to learn some other way to be a popular on digg. I have a doubt, is it legitimate?

  9. MrRocknRoll Says:

    This looks great Ragnar… (Haven’t I read about you in an Ayn Rand novel..)

  10. anonymous Says:

    Keep up the good work guys, I’ve been with these guys for a while now and I can vouch that they do pay out and are great people to deal with.

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